Here’s an incredibly interesting conversation with Rick Rubin, a producer I very much admire. Full of deepdives into specific songs I grew up with. Rick is also known for dropping some nice wisdom in between. You can relate it to music instruments, songwriting, producing. Or life itself.

“Using the things you have and making the best of what those things are. Instead of trying to turn them into the thing you wish they were. That’s really a good way to go.”